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matarmitage88


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posted August 12, 2005 08:27 AM        
power commander and can (Technical)

could anyone help me. I have a 2002 zx12r and have recently put a art can on it. I have been told that this increases the heat in the engine and doesnt allow petrol to be splashed onto the valves therefore they can burn out. how true is this?

Is it better to run a power commander with this?

Regards

Mat

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lietoome


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posted August 12, 2005 11:13 AM        
whoever told you that is full of crap....to put it nicely. If you just installed an Art, make sure you hammer out the cat so it doesn't charbroil a beautiflu pipe like the Art.
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frEEk


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posted August 12, 2005 01:03 PM        
a PC is a good idea for an aftermarket can, but generally isn't required for just a slip/bolt on. however you will be able to squeze a bit more power out of it, and more importantly you can solve that nasty throttle on/off abruptness (which i hope to test this weekend).
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scooter trash


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posted August 12, 2005 02:01 PM        
If you have fuel "splashing" onto the valves, your motor is only going to last about 30 seconds, so it doesn't matter. :-)


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zxlnt


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posted August 12, 2005 03:37 PM        
quote:
could anyone help me. I have a 2002 zx12r and have recently put a art can on it. I have been told that this increases the heat in the engine and doesnt allow petrol to be splashed onto the valves therefore they can burn out. how true is this?

Is it better to run a power commander with this?

Regards

Mat



Who spewed that line crap to you??

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lietoome


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posted August 12, 2005 04:06 PM        
"Get a rope."
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CrotchRocket


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posted August 13, 2005 12:15 AM        
I have a 2002 ZX12 Stock Motor with an Akrapovic full pipe WITHOUT a power commander!!!

You dont need one!!!...But if you want one then get a PC3r usb and try to find someone that will make a custom map for you!!!...Dont listen to the nonsence out there...Your best bet is to requent this site and ask us for help, were not the dealer looking to take your money, were here to help!!!
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fish_antlers


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posted August 13, 2005 12:41 AM        
hey Canadian.. it depends on the model year... for instance I've found that the 04 10R seems to run better with a slipon and no PC3. The '00 12R definetly ran better with a PC3 with either a stock or aftermarket exhaust.


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eastbaydave


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posted August 13, 2005 12:44 AM        
5 years now no PC on my Akro EVO equipped 00'....runs fine.
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fish_antlers


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posted August 13, 2005 12:54 AM        
dave.. I''d encourage you to ride a 10R to see what FI should feel like...
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RAC4IT


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posted August 13, 2005 02:40 AM        
quote:
I have a 2002 ZX12 Stock Motor with an Akrapovic full pipe WITHOUT a power commander!!!

You dont need one!!!...But if you want one then get a PC3r usb and try to find someone that will make a custom map for you!!!...Dont listen to the nonsence out there...Your best bet is to requent this site and ask us for help, were not the dealer looking to take your money, were here to help!!!


100% agreed. You do NOT need a PC3 for your pipe. Mike bike always ran better WITHOUT IT at the track, and I had a Muzzys pipe.

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fish_antlers


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posted August 13, 2005 08:10 AM        
for people who say their bike "run better" without a PC3... how many of you had CUSTOM maps made (you took the time to have it dyno'd and mappped) ... or are you talking about running maps you download from the 'net or DJ's website?
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eastbaydave


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posted August 13, 2005 11:22 PM        
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dave.. I''d encourage you to ride a 10R to see what FI should feel like...

If only I knew someone who owned one...
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