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posted August 13, 2004 12:05 PM
Daytona 200 now an FX race?
Rumor has it that the Superbike race at Daytona will now be run as a Sprint Race. The FX600's will now be run as the 200. If true, that sucks!
   
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posted August 13, 2004 12:40 PM
If true then Daytona attendance will be at an all time low - this will not help the sport/industry much.
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posted August 13, 2004 01:44 PM
Maybe literbike speeds, literbike power on the banking? Tire safety?
Any other reason given?
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posted August 13, 2004 01:48 PM
They're cutting the course shorter dont think the banking will be an issue.
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posted August 13, 2004 01:48 PM
That is if Daytona is still there after Charley. Supposed to be packing hurricane force winds all the way across Florida and out the other side.
I would hope the AMA got some committment for more factory effort in FX besides Honda before they made this decision. Still, it just won't be nearly the same.
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posted August 13, 2004 02:16 PM
kz2zx - it's definetly all those things.
Here's the official AMA release;
Daytona 200 to be opening round of Formula Xtreme Series
PICKERINGTON, Ohio (Aug. 13, 2004) -- AMA Pro Racing announced today that the class structure for the 2005 AMA Chevrolet Superbike Championship will remain unchanged. Additionally, it was announced that the 2005 Daytona 200 will feature Formula Xtreme machinery.
The class structure for the 2005 championship remains as follows:
Superbike: 901-1000cc four-stroke, two or more cylinders
Supersport: 0-600cc four-stroke, multi-cylinder
Formula Xtreme: 450cc-600cc four-stroke, multi-cylinder; 595cc-750cc four-stroke, liquid-cooled, twin-cylinder; 850cc-1350cc four-stroke, air-cooled, twin-cylinder
Superstock: 745cc-1000cc four-stroke, multi-cylinder
The current class structure was enacted beginning with the 2004 racing season and is expected to remain in place at least through the 2006 racing season. Proposed 2005 rule changes were announced on July 25 and are currently subject to a 30-day comment period. AMA Pro Racing credential holders can make comments on AMA Pro Racing's RIDERS ONLY website at www.amaproracing.com/ridersonly.
The Daytona 200, formerly part of the AMA Superbike Championship, will now utilize Formula Xtreme equipment. According to Scott Hollingsworth, AMA Pro Racing CEO, this change is being made in response to many of the concerns that have arisen regarding Daytona. "Daytona is a unique place and requires a unique approach. At the same time, Daytona and the Daytona 200 are treasured icons in the racing world," said Hollingsworth. "To keep that event viable while acknowledging the realities posed by modern, 1000cc Superbikes, we will run the Daytona 200 as a Formula Xtreme race. AMA Superbikes will continue at Daytona but now as a sprint race, consistent with the rest of the Superbike events that comprise our championship."
Hollingsworth stated that the future direction of the Daytona 200 has been discussed for some time and has included input from manufacturers, riders, team principals, tire companies, as well as Daytona International Speedway and International Speedway Corporation. "In meetings dating back to last year, it became clear that a course change and reducing sustained speeds of the 200 were two primary areas that needed addressing," said Hollingsworth. "There were many innovative ideas put forth but the notion of running Formula Xtreme machinery in the 200 while still showcasing Superbikes was the one idea that had the most merit. From a marketing standpoint, the winners of either race earn plenty of bragging rights because a 200 mile win or a Superbike victory at Daytona are tremendous accomplishments. Another option that was given strong consideration was that of racing Supersport bikes in the 200. However, it's no secret that Formula Xtreme equipment may one day form the basis for Superbikes. This possible 'peek into the future' was the ultimate factor in determining the best long-term solution."
Hollingsworth stated that these changes, as well as the track reconfiguration that was jointly announced yesterday by AMA Pro Racing and Daytona International Speedway, are examples of the responsiveness shared by both organizations. "Together we have examined the issues, listened to all viewpoints and created a strong direction for the future," summarized Hollingsworth.
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posted August 13, 2004 03:33 PM
*snore* One more reason not to go.
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posted August 13, 2004 04:01 PM
Leave Alan out of this. He doesn't care about Daytona.
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posted August 13, 2004 04:02 PM
Hmmmm.
Not sure what else to say.
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posted August 13, 2004 04:08 PM
Beginning of the end.
Guess in 5 years they'll just resurrect 2 stroke 2fiddys and we'll start all over again.
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posted August 13, 2004 05:26 PM
 Edited By: trenace on 13 Aug 2004 18:52
It makes an incredible amount of sense to run 1350 cc air-cooled Twins, like for example the Guzzi MGS-01 Corsa or theoretically anyway, a punched-out Ducati; against 600 cc Fours.
Just what everyone is interested in, giving the Fours a severe displacement limitation while letting the Twins be essentially unlimited.
That will really prove a lot, and obviously creates a really level playing field.
Here's a better idea though -- run a particular displacement that you think appropriate. And BTW I don't think that's as low as 600 cc for the premier race. Also have the same weight rules etc for everyone. If the twins can't win on this, well, that's too bad, maybe that shows that twins aren't as effective a design? Or if they are, then they can win. Anyhow, let that be decided on the track, not massively-handicapped beforehand by the rules committee.
And then if you want to let machines that can't compete on same displacement nonetheless have a chance of winning something, then have a lame-ass "Battle of the Twins" race as well.
Hint, no one will be that thrilled with the BOT race -- they never have been -- and if that's right, then why turn the whole thing into basically a BOT race along with severely-displacement-handicapped Fours???
"Retarded" is about the kindest word I can come up with for this.
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posted August 13, 2004 07:08 PM
Hopefully they'll drop Daytona the year after. Start the race where it belongs, on a real road race circuit...
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posted August 24, 2004 06:33 PM
I just gotta bump this...Anyone in favor of moving the race away from Daytona? Say, the west coast? Maybe start the season in CA?
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posted August 24, 2004 06:34 PM
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I just gotta bump this...Anyone in favor of moving the race away from Daytona? Say, the west coast? Maybe start the season in CA?
just bump it.......I think they aught to run it closer to me, so i dont have to drive so far....
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