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redelk


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posted September 07, 2006 08:56 PM        
frEEk, sadly, to address your display issue, at least with the V1, requires spending MORE money for the remote display. Getting both the remote audio and the remote display takes the cost of the V1 closer to the $500 mark. Wiring up all those remotes is anything but "bike friendly".
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TheVak


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posted September 07, 2006 10:08 PM        
They are illegal here is there anyway to hide it in a 14 and still have it work properly? Do they have a wireless detection unit at all ? Meaning an in helmet light or on the dash ect ? I will buy that Bel if there is a way to do what I need. Any help ??

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hellfire


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posted September 08, 2006 01:12 AM        
I used to use an escort on my Ducati, great radar detector, in fact Bell and Escort are now the same company in case you didn't know, one bought the other... The problem I had was detectors like bell and escort required mounting that invited thieves, then further investing into a H.A.R.D. system if you wanted to be EFFECTIVELY warned. The key word in motorcycles is BEING WARNED each time the thing goes off. Otherwise you can have a bell or an escort going off but your eye's are on the road where they belong and you miss the critical early waring. I currently have a Valentine in my car and love it just even more than my escort because of its multiple bogy counter. BUT ON MY BIKE, I switched to the new Whistler Crusaider. It has a remore antenna mounted in the front and in the rear, it shoots a blue piercing laser into my face when I am being hit, it also comes with an optional in helmet remote display just like the H.A.R.D. system. It is all a permanant mount and LOOKS GOOD on the bike. I never have to turn it on or off, never have to worry about a mount getting loose or falling off, and it works just as good as my escort and valentine. The company is not as bigon Marketing as bell and escort but please understand technology is not a top secret with these things, really I promise.... There is no more magic to a hundred dollar unit than a three hundred dollar unit, just more options and bells and whistles.... auto muting, custom programming the bands you want..... these are things you don't need. What you do need is a radar detector that warns you effeciently so you can slow down and nothing does that easier and with a sleeker installation and price than whistler Crusaider. Anybody who says diffrent is just another talker who has not used one. Once you use one only then will you undertand there effectivenes. Oh, and understanding the meaning of the words, "Marginal" as used in the performance difference between radar detectors, and also the word, Marketing, which is what sites like radarbusters are involved in. I do urge you to try the Whistler, at first I thought "whistler" who the fuck are they, ha ha, well I swallowed my words when my brother pulled up with his and I had my escort. Its amazing how marketing can be, Bell vs: Escort.. ha ha same fricken company my friends,
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fish_antlers


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posted September 08, 2006 01:55 AM        
Hellfire... welcome to the site.. go WAY BACK to the beginning of this topic, download the review, and read it.
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pdonnell


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posted September 08, 2006 07:02 AM        Edited By: pdonnell on 8 Sep 2006 15:04
I'd get any radar detector that does it for you. Any of these three are very good at what they do. Just get a H.A.R.D. system and forget about the beeps and voices. Over the long haul its a pain in the ass to forgo bike to bike radio or mpeg players just to be able to hear your fricken detector.
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I've had my passport with H.A.R.D. for 3 years now and it works great. On my 999 I had it mounted right above the front fender, below the nose light. On the ZX I use a techmount. Friends have the V-1 and swear by them too. Each comparo test between mags and journals rate them so close there all the same.

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fish_antlers


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posted September 08, 2006 07:42 AM        Edited By: fish_antlers on 8 Sep 2006 16:18
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Each comparo test between mags and journals rate them so close there all the same.


But they arent all the same, and one was clearly better for motorcycle use in our collective opinion... hence why we chose a winner in this particular review.
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pdonnell


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posted September 08, 2006 12:50 PM        
use in our collective opinion...
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My point exactly....Only an opinion. (that only seems to rest on the fact that the winner talks to you)
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With H.A.R.D. factored in there close enough to be all the same.
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Bar is still open.

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hellfire


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posted September 08, 2006 01:44 PM        
Thanks for the time and effort in your review's you place on this board fish. I am very happy to have joined and welcome all opinions. This is what these boards or for. For the most part I agree on your testing. I just wanted to add that the Whistler Crusaider is a sleeper, I even hate the name Whistler.... but man this thing is really a nice addition to a sportbike. I for one am a complete hopeless neurotic when it comes to searching for the best, sometimes in my searches I run across things not yet common but never the less very good. In this case the effortless led laser mounted above my speedo and tach does all the work, I just keep my eye on the road and in my rear mirror. Peace.
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jakaal


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posted September 10, 2006 08:28 AM        
Fish,
Thanks for taking the time to conduct this unbiased review. I read this entire thread and all I can say is WHEW!!!! In conclusion, I took your recommendation and ordered a Bel (with overnight delivery) Thanks again.

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zx14_1965


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posted October 14, 2006 12:06 PM        
I'd buy the Bel if I ever needed one...
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mugsymd


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posted October 15, 2006 08:25 AM        
Hey, in Virginia - what would you use, considering they are illegal here to both use and possess. I've gotten stopped before twice in the past 12 years for possessing a radar detector - the 1st did not have VG-2 (old passport) and got caught at a stop light with a cop behind me at 4:30 AM on my way to work. 2nd time I did have VG-2 - but didn't seem to work because the cop knew I had a radar detector - it was his first question - or more like a demand - "Give me the radar detector" - he copied the serial number, wrote me a ticket for possession, speeding 67 in a 55, and then gave me back the detector and told me to never use it again. So, now in the mood for a new detector - and yeah, in Virginia it sucks, but they use radar ALL the time here - they actually sit in front of my house about once or twice a week watching for speeders (those going at least 36 in a 25) or those flying thru stop signs - actually don't mind either in the neighborhood as I have 3 kids - but in the freeway - I need protection - so any ideas at to what the cops use for "radar detector - detectors"? By the way, I'm not a Virginian, I'm a Texan - so I can legally get the thing mailed to Texas.
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posted October 15, 2006 12:48 PM        
I can't speak for the 14, but on both the zx-12r and R1 there is room to mount the detector completely hidden inside the upper above the headlight and in front of the gauge cluster.

Sounds like big brother is alive and well in Virginia? That shit would never fly here.




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zx14_1965


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posted October 15, 2006 12:53 PM        Edited By: zx14_1965 on 15 Oct 2006 20:54
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I can't speak for the 14, but on both the zx-12r and R1 there is room to mount the detector completely hidden inside the upper above the headlight and in front of the gauge cluster.
Sounds like big brother is alive and well in Virginia? That shit would never fly here.



Them gadgets are legal in Colorado? What about them radar jammin' devices (Phantom/Phazer)?, didn't the company who makes/made them from CO?

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frEEk


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posted October 15, 2006 01:35 PM        
to the best of my knowledge, active radar jammers are not legal anywhere in the US, and passive ones are ineffectual. anyone know differently?
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fish_antlers


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posted October 15, 2006 01:46 PM        
I believe active laser jammers are legal and that's the only thing?


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blitzkrieg


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posted October 18, 2006 07:54 AM        Edited By: blitzkrieg on 18 Oct 2006 15:56
Radar detectors are legal here. They tried to pass legislation to ban them I don't know, about 10 years ago.

So many people raised a shit storm that by the time it was done and said the bill was written such that radar would be banned too (quid pro quo ) and the bill fell through the floor.

I'm proud to say that I was involved in the embryonic phases of a citizens comittee called "Ban Radar" that got the quid pro quo added to the bill. I wasn't able to follow through the project to success as I got transferred to Canada with my job for 3 months a month into it but I did see it born.

Seems the state realized they would lose much more revenue under that scenario than if the cop actually had to pace you the old fashioned way. They'd rather just stick a patrol car and 10 police motorcycles in an advantageous spot and pick off the people (of which there is no shortage) who speed with no detector and their attention on their cell phone.

I guess my biggest argument to people who say radar detectors don't work is why do states ban them then?

I've done a lot of reading on jammers and it's like the "what's the best oil" debate. I haven't bought one so obviously I'm not sold. Not saying they don't or can't work I just don't know enough to spend the money on one at this point.

Ironically I read once that one of the biggest lobbying groups for radar and laser manufacturer's is also one of the biggest lobbying groups for radar and laser detector manufacturer's. Go figure. It keep's the world economy flowing I suppose.

As I always say - in the end it's all about money.
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zerMATT


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posted October 18, 2006 08:43 AM        
I've considered picking up a laser jammer, but hell... the ones that actually work are pretty damn expensive. Plus, I'd have to figure out a way to move it between 4 cars and 1 motorcycle to really get my money's worth.
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1badzx12r


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posted October 18, 2006 09:14 AM        
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I believe active laser jammers are legal and that's the only thing?


illegal go by a airport with a jammer and watch if men in black don't fine you
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blitzkrieg


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posted October 18, 2006 09:40 AM        
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I believe active laser jammers are legal and that's the only thing?


illegal go by a airport with a jammer and watch if men in black don't fine you


If thats true they have to be able to single you out AND catch you. I find that hard to believe as everytime I have been within 10 miles of an airport there is more traffic than you can shake a stick at.

Do you know this for fact or just speculating? (honest question - not trying to be an asshole).
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