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mrsantafe


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posted October 08, 2006 03:02 AM        
ignition advancer for the 14?

Does anyone make one yet?
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Bronze Star Racing


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posted October 08, 2006 04:33 AM        
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zxbob


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posted October 08, 2006 05:50 AM        
More info please !

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TJ


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posted October 08, 2006 06:13 AM        
PC3R allows for ignition timing adjustments.
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zx1kr


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posted October 08, 2006 06:26 AM        
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PC3R allows for ignition timing adjustments.



That is not correct. Ignition Module from Dynoje & must be used in conjunction w/ PC3usb
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smiddy1


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posted October 10, 2006 07:32 AM        
This does both

http://secure.mycart.net/catalogs/catalog.asp?prodid=4781842&showprevnext=1
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posted October 10, 2006 08:23 AM        
Cool!


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dubious


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posted October 10, 2006 09:53 AM        
That will onlt allow 2 degrees advance.... marginal power gain (1%).
Its meant for nitrous and boost, which NEEDS timing retarded....

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ninja14


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posted October 10, 2006 04:43 PM        Edited By: ninja14 on 11 Oct 2006 00:43
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That will onlt allow 2 degrees advance.... marginal power gain (1%).
Its meant for nitrous and boost, which NEEDS timing retarded....


16degrees..............2% of engine power...........


Get one here

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ZXLNT


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posted October 10, 2006 07:36 PM        
16 degrees of Timing RETARD not advance..
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ryan schnitz


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posted October 10, 2006 09:20 PM        
The EFIR-14 unit allows up to 6 degrees of advance and up to 16 degrees of retard. It will advance the timing when running on motor, then retard for nitrous or boost. (12 volt activated)

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ninja14


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posted October 11, 2006 01:05 AM        
Ah...I see. That makes perfect sense for the nitrous set-up.........
That's a little spendy for 6degrees if you are not using nitrous :-)

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ryan schnitz


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posted October 11, 2006 02:09 AM        
Yeah, ignition advance was an added feature to the retard unit.

Designed for retard with nitrous/turbo. But, can be used only as an ignition advance if desired.

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mrsantafe


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posted October 12, 2006 12:32 AM        
Thanks for the answes fellas. Approximately,how much of a hp increase should i expect from the ignition advancer with just bolt ons?(pipe, pc, etc)
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ninja14


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posted October 12, 2006 05:37 PM        
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Thanks for the answes fellas. Approximately,how much of a hp increase should i expect from the ignition advancer with just bolt ons?(pipe, pc, etc)


Depends on what "etc" is............

Slip-on and PC tuned can get you to about 175, but peak power numbers don't tell all.

I have no flies, dual CF slips, tuned PC, some home made wiring tricks and 16/43 gears. I can carry the front tire all the way through second gear and some of third (not talking about high up wheelies BS, but big power with me trying to hold it down with my 195lbs on the front of the seat)

The extra 6 degrees won't get you anywhere near that kind of flying........

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bigdtd


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posted October 15, 2006 01:20 AM        
be carefull with the timimg if you don't use good gas you will get detonation
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posted October 15, 2006 11:45 AM        
This one advances ,retards and controls fuel too:
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zx14_1965


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posted October 15, 2006 12:49 PM        
quote:
PC3R allows for ignition timing adjustments.




Already have one - got it for really really cheap...to be installed and PCIII custom mapping to be done on Tuesday.


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ninja14


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posted October 15, 2006 05:29 PM        Edited By: ninja14 on 16 Oct 2006 01:30
Try my free version.............

.......here

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zxlnt


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posted October 15, 2006 05:49 PM        
Yep that's the same thing that was done with the ZX12R's before the igniton advancers were available.
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zx14_1965


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posted October 16, 2006 01:10 PM        
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Try my free version.............

.......here


Very intuitive....

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ninja14


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posted October 16, 2006 04:10 PM        
Soon as I got my service manual and saw the set-up I knew it would be simple......and cheap :-)
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posted October 17, 2006 12:06 AM        
You need to set the rotor gap also.

You might want to add that into your instructions. Tell them to use a feeler gauge and measure the rotor gap and then set it when tightening the pickup coil bolts.
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