HOME ARTICLES JOIN GALLERY STORE SPONSORS MARKETPLACE CONTACT US  
Register | FAQ | Search | Memberlist
Username:    Password:       Forgot your password?
BIKELAND > FORUMS > ZX-14.com > Thread: -My ZX-14 Build Thread- (TOC on page 1) NEW TOPIC NEW POLL POST REPLY
CajunBoyz


Zone Head
Posts: 700
posted August 30, 2013 08:30 PM        
That MONSTER looking good...!!! Great work Shane & Rachel.. Wish i was up there close by.. Would LOVE to make a top Speed run on that MONSTER... We locally run ours 2nd -6th about every week...
Just finished last night doing some tunning/installed MPS auto shifter on my Buddies 14R.

____________
"Cajun Boyz with Bad Ass Toys"

  Ignore this member   
Shane661


Needs a life
Posts: 11494
posted August 31, 2013 12:16 AM        
quote:
That MONSTER looking good...!!! Great work Shane & Rachel.. Wish i was up there close by.. Would LOVE to make a top Speed run on that MONSTER... We locally run ours 2nd -6th about every week...
Just finished last night doing some tunning/installed MPS auto shifter on my Buddies 14R.



Thanks. I spent about 20 hours on it this week. We don't have anywhere close that I can "test" it at. Plus the fact it runs on race gas, with a small fuel tank, means just local testing for "gremlins" and that sort of thing.

Shane

  Ignore this member   
Seno


Pro
BANNED FOR LIFE!
Posts: 1230
posted August 31, 2013 12:33 AM        
Ooooo, how do you like the $300 bike lift from Harbor Freight Shithouse? I was debating buying one but wanted to find someone that actually spent their money first.... Granted with the right coupon it's $300ish but I would rather get a "real world" reciew
____________
2012 Black 14R -> Completely done!

  Ignore this member   
Shane661


Needs a life
Posts: 11494
posted August 31, 2013 01:22 AM        
quote:
Ooooo, how do you like the $300 bike lift from Harbor Freight Shithouse? I was debating buying one but wanted to find someone that actually spent their money first.... Granted with the right coupon it's $300ish but I would rather get a "real world" reciew


One of mine tend to drift down, but I put the "bar" in it to hold it at a level. I don't think you can beat the deal, really. I think I paid $249 each for mine.

Shane

  Ignore this member   
Shane661


Needs a life
Posts: 11494
posted October 02, 2013 08:29 AM        
A couple of 200+ mph shakedown passes in the mile....





Time to get down to business this winter, and prepare to ratchet up the speeds.

Shane

  Ignore this member   
LAB3


Needs a job
Posts: 2977
posted October 02, 2013 08:57 AM        
quote:
A couple of 200+ mph shakedown passes in the mile....





Time to get down to business this winter, and prepare to ratchet up the speeds.

Shane


Did you have the 14 painted?(Rattle can lol ?) What was the final RWHP on that trick engine you had built?

  Ignore this member   
Shane661


Needs a life
Posts: 11494
posted October 02, 2013 09:23 AM        
That is all oem panels, no spray paint. The motor made 251 STD hp as tuned by Bryan Snyder. We will be looking for some serious mph come spring.

Shane

  Ignore this member   
entropy


Moderator
Posts: 8671
posted October 05, 2013 10:34 PM        
Shane,
did you find out what was up with yr A/F?
I was told it wasn't responding to map changes????
karl
____________
This moderator uses moderation in moderation

  Ignore this member   
Shane661


Needs a life
Posts: 11494
posted October 05, 2013 10:50 PM        Edited By: Shane661 on 6 Oct 2013 13:54
quote:
Shane,
did you find out what was up with yr A/F?
I was told it wasn't responding to map changes????
Karl


Karl, I think there are a couple things going on. First is that the fuel system needs upgraded. We tried to get by with the stock setup (was fine on the dyno), but the fueling was inconsistent. Gears 1-4 have fairly beastly acceleration (as shown in logs), but 5-6 fueling would often go lean...even with 23's in the cells. (+10% over our dyno map). I nearly had a heart attack after the first run showed 14:1 a/f.

So, now I am going to do the fuel system right (Bosch injectors, big fuel rail, and pump). I noticed that these fuel rails are very restrictive at the "bend". I am also going to improve the logger setup, and I am looking at some things with the ecu, too. I love this bike, and we are going to make it fly....

Shane

  Ignore this member   
entropy


Moderator
Posts: 8671
posted October 05, 2013 11:10 PM        
do you log duty cycle??

when i 1st put Greenie on the dyno, the injectors which were recommended to me for that build went to 90-100% DC to get AF correct.
So i went to Marren and got some of his mod'd Bosches. DC went to mid 70's.

It is VERY weird that yr Dyno tune was so far off at the track.
Do you use a Powercommander or ECU flash?
If you use a PC, i'd say it is fukkered or maybe a bad ground.
____________
This moderator uses moderation in moderation

  Ignore this member   
Shane661


Needs a life
Posts: 11494
posted October 05, 2013 11:18 PM        Edited By: Shane661 on 6 Oct 2013 14:22
quote:
do you log duty cycle??

when i 1st put Greenie on the dyno, the injectors which were recommended to me for that build went to 90-100% DC to get AF correct.
So i went to Marren and got some of his mod'd Bosches. DC went to mid 70's.

It is VERY weird that yr Dyno tune was so far off at the track.
Do you use a Powercommander or ECU flash?
If you use a PC, i'd say it is fukkered or maybe a bad ground.


I was only logging a/f and rpm. Basic ghetto system with the LM-2 logger. Yeah, it had me banging my head on the wall. Last pass, I rolled 5th gear from low rpm and the a/f was flat at 13:1 (still a bit lean)...but that is with the big numbers in the cells. Seems like if it rowed through the gears, the fuel system couldn't keep up.

I was using the PC-V for fueling. I knew that the fueling would be close to the limit, and I really dodged a bullet there.

Shane

  Ignore this member   
entropy


Moderator
Posts: 8671
posted October 05, 2013 11:28 PM        
with big motors good to log fuel pressure & DC in addition to the normal.

I completely lost a ZX12 motor Top & bottom) by it being too lean, then lost pistons on Greenie on its 1st pass at Loring when the fuel pressure went to zero (fuse)

You did right by shutting it down when you couldn't get AF down to 12.5-12.8, what was yr DC on Brock's dyno?
____________
This moderator uses moderation in moderation

  Ignore this member   
Shane661


Needs a life
Posts: 11494
posted October 05, 2013 11:32 PM        Edited By: Shane661 on 6 Oct 2013 14:34
quote:
with big motors good to log fuel pressure & DC in addition to the normal.

I completely lost a ZX12 motor Top & bottom) by it being too lean, then lost pistons on Greenie on its 1st pass at Loring when the fuel pressure went to zero (fuse)

You did right by shutting it down when you couldn't get AF down to 12.5-12.8, what was yr DC on Brock's dyno?


I didn't get DC, like a dumbass. It was very consistent hp/afr on the dyno...and I kinda just let it slide....even though it was something I had "planned" to look at. I got so caught up in the other details, that I didn't get that information. Honestly, I was a bundle of nerves with it on the dyno...new stroker$$ motor, never ran anything like that before.

I am definitely logging it all next season. Will probably touch base with you on which logging system I am using. I have some DL-32's here, but would like a system with better vendor support.

Shane

  Ignore this member   
Shane661


Needs a life
Posts: 11494
posted October 06, 2013 12:57 AM        
Looking good! The bike and Racheal aren't bad, either...






Shane

  Ignore this member   
mobikerider


Parking Attendant
Posts: 8
posted January 15, 2014 01:30 AM        
Bringing this back to the top.

Thanks again for all the info. It's amazing the detail you put into all your work.

Just a quick question on the battery. I know you touched on it a little bit and a few people responded. I'm still a little confused as to if you utilize the factory charging system and that is sufficient or do you have the Li/Po charger and charge the bike in the pits or at home between races?

Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
____________
Nitrous is like a hot girl with STD's,

You want to hit it but you are afraid

of the consequences.

  Ignore this member   
Shane661


Needs a life
Posts: 11494
posted January 15, 2014 04:04 AM        Edited By: Shane661 on 15 Jan 2014 20:04
quote:
Bringing this back to the top.

Thanks again for all the info. It's amazing the detail you put into all your work.

Just a quick question on the battery. I know you touched on it a little bit and a few people responded. I'm still a little confused as to if you utilize the factory charging system and that is sufficient or do you have the Li/Po charger and charge the bike in the pits or at home between races?

Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.


It works fine with the factory charging system. On my stock motor bike, the small Speedcell was great. For a daily street bike I would use the 12 cell lithium iron batteries. They have more reserve and cranking power, and only weigh about 2.5 lbs.

On the big stroker motor I actually have two 410 cranking amp Ballistic batteries configured for 24v start. Only one of those batteries gets charged by the factory system, but even 50 starts does not fully deplete the 2nd battery.

Shane

  Ignore this member   
mobikerider


Parking Attendant
Posts: 8
posted January 15, 2014 04:26 AM        
Thanks for the reply. Mine is just a track only bike. So I will look into the speedcell. I was just worried I would have to take a generator and buy a special charger to make it work.
____________
Nitrous is like a hot girl with STD's,

You want to hit it but you are afraid

of the consequences.

  Ignore this member   
mobikerider


Parking Attendant
Posts: 8
posted January 15, 2014 04:29 AM        
Thanks for the reply. Mine is just a track only bike. So I will look into the speedcell. I was just worried I would have to take a generator and buy a special charger to make it work.
____________
Nitrous is like a hot girl with STD's,

You want to hit it but you are afraid

of the consequences.

  Ignore this member   
AbramSearcy


Parking Attendant
Posts: 1
posted March 18, 2014 06:20 PM        
The activity of the animal beings has become acutely active everywhere on this earth. Bodies do not get time to booty a blow for a while. With the accretion use of altered gadgets of Gps Jammer, the possibilities of accepting the aboriginal of blow accept absolutely finished. The adaptable phones or the corpuscle phones are some of these accessories that accumulate the bodies consistently in blow with the alfresco world. The adaptable building are additionally accessible about everywhere these canicule and due to this the accessibility of the Cell Phone Jammer has become alike added quick and authentic. Today, you cannot break out of ability of these adaptable building as their signals can bolt your about anywhere. The bearings of bodies who accord to altered business professions has become actual analytical of 868 mhz jammer as their authorities bolt them anywhere any moment.

  Ignore this member   
Shane661


Needs a life
Posts: 11494
posted May 18, 2015 06:40 AM        
Well, I sold the stroker motor. What does the future of this bike hold? Only time will tell...



Shane

  Ignore this member   
All times are America/Va [ This thread is 78 pages long: 1  -  <10  -  70  71  72  73  74  75  76  77  78   ] < Previous Thread     Next Thread >
BIKELAND > FORUMS > ZX-14.com > Thread: -My ZX-14 Build Thread- (TOC on page 1) NEW TOPIC NEW POLL POST REPLY

FEATURED NEWS   Bikeland News RSS Feed

HEADLINES   Bikeland News RSS Feed


Copyright 2000-2015 Bikeland Media
Please refer to our terms of service for further information
0.43476700782776 seconds processing time