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posted August 10, 2008 11:34 PM
Ninjaboy311- great write up and photos on your latest upgrade!!! With all of the repeat threads and the ones that spark peoples temperment, it's cool to see a thread that has value for most. Good luck with your testing and keep the info coming. I personally shift between making my bike go faster and upgrading the looks. By the looks of the retrofit, this is an easy to moderate mod...
  
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shane661
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posted August 11, 2008 01:14 AM
Well, I ordered them and should have them this week. I'll also report my results when I can test them out.
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posted August 11, 2008 01:38 AM
Shane- Ninja311- mentioned he got the short stacks, are you getting the taller ones(that improves med-range)? Or are you going with the same setup(using the smaller ones)?
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shane661
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posted August 11, 2008 01:49 AM
I also went with the shorter ones. I had short Bear stacks on my 12R with good results.
I intend to run the bike for top speed a few times, so I would rather focus the power at the top of the powerband. I think I can spare a couple of hp in the midrange, even at the dragstrip.
If the stacks are truly good for 4-5 hp on the dyno, they will be worth more than that at 190 mph. Even 4-5 hp would be significant in the mile. A single mph can be hard to come by sometimes.
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posted August 11, 2008 04:27 AM
 Edited By: swiftkart on 11 Aug 2008 11:28
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3-4mph more after teh 8th with 4 hp? Mr9 dosent even give you those gains after the 1/8th, i'm sorry i think its nice that youre testing them out and its great and all but something else must of changed i possibly cannot see 3-4mph more from just velocity stacks, did you loose mph in the 1/8th? sometimes if you run slower 1/8th mile you gain more then you usually do when you run high mph. Ive been 116mph and 147 1/4, then last night bike made alot more power 122 1/8th and 149.5 1/4
You guys have to keep in mind, the dyno showed 4 to 5 hp without ram air, so with ram air these stacks could be picking up a lot more than 4 to 5 hp over the stock ones. I have the short ones installed also, haven't been to the track to test yet.
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posted August 11, 2008 01:21 PM
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According to my logbook, in June it was 85% humidity, 84 degrees, 5 MPH Tail wind, DA was 2800 ft.
Friday night, it was 95% humidity, 3300 DA, 0 wind, 80 degrees.
What was the BP?
If you gained that much from them, I need to get them to make a set for the ZX12.
I gained with the Bear stacks, but not that much......
Thats a TON of hp gain on the top end. The stock stacks must really suck.
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posted February 26, 2009 07:16 AM
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I am going to call Schnitz today and check availability. I am thinking of giving them a try.
I have a data logger on the bike. I would like to see how they affect a/f and mph. I might just change them out at the track and compare results.
Thanks for taking the time to update your findings.
Shane
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Shane did U ever install the "short factory pro race stacks" on your bike??? If so, anything you can comment on??
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Shane661
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posted February 26, 2009 07:18 AM
I never did install them....
However, the person I sold them to had positive feedback about them. I am now looking at the Big CC Racing stacks.
I'm sorry I can't offer up any more info...
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posted February 26, 2009 10:07 PM
Dad D and I are going to play hide an seek my air flow. I am going to run down the long stack corridor and aft tear she is done torquing that bolt, she is going to run down the shorter hallway is ready... SET... GO!
Wwwdahoda blew thru the door to the big room faster? Do I see she took the shortest path of air into the chamber? Time that for me. I am going to make the engine turn or light off that much sooner is least path to resistance is around an intake boot.
Eyes rest my wrench is when is lunch? OH look, beer an nuts! Early Brake Fast?
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posted February 27, 2009 03:49 AM
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Dad D and I are going to play hide an seek my air flow. I am going to run down the long stack corridor and aft tear she is done torquing that bolt, she is going to run down the shorter hallway is ready... SET... GO!
Wwwdahoda blew thru the door to the big room faster? Do I see she took the shortest path of air into the chamber? Time that for me. I am going to make the engine turn or light off that much sooner is least path to resistance is around an intake boot.
Eyes rest my wrench is when is lunch? OH look, beer an nuts! Early Brake Fast?
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posted February 27, 2009 03:52 AM
Edited By: masszx14 on 27 Feb 2009 18:53
I somehow double posted... 
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posted February 27, 2009 04:26 AM
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Dad D and I are going to play hide an seek my air flow. I am going to run down the long stack corridor and aft tear she is done torquing that bolt, she is going to run down the shorter hallway is ready... SET... GO!
Wwwdahoda blew thru the door to the big room faster? Do I see she took the shortest path of air into the chamber? Time that for me. I am going to make the engine turn or light off that much sooner is least path to resistance is around an intake boot.
Eyes rest my wrench is when is lunch? OH look, beer an nuts! Early Brake Fast?
Exactly what language is this...... cause I can't make an ounce of sense....
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masszx14
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posted February 27, 2009 04:52 AM
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Dad D and I are going to play hide an seek my air flow. I am going to run down the long stack corridor and aft tear she is done torquing that bolt, she is going to run down the shorter hallway is ready... SET... GO!
Wwwdahoda blew thru the door to the big room faster? Do I see she took the shortest path of air into the chamber? Time that for me. I am going to make the engine turn or light off that much sooner is least path to resistance is around an intake boot.
Eyes rest my wrench is when is lunch? OH look, beer an nuts! Early Brake Fast?
Exactly what language is this...... cause I can't make an ounce of sense....
It's hubbish!
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posted February 27, 2009 05:38 AM
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Dad D and I are going to play hide an seek my air flow. I am going to run down the long stack corridor and aft tear she is done torquing that bolt, she is going to run down the shorter hallway is ready... SET... GO!
Wwwdahoda blew thru the door to the big room faster? Do I see she took the shortest path of air into the chamber? Time that for me. I am going to make the engine turn or light off that much sooner is least path to resistance is around an intake boot.
Eyes rest my wrench is when is lunch? OH look, beer an nuts! Early Brake Fast?
translation: him and his Dyno are going to check the before and after on the short and long stacks to see the torque and hp gains
the only reason I even have a clue is because I worked 16 years in a prison and talk to throwed off folks daily....then I leave turnout and go deal with the inmates.....
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posted February 27, 2009 06:26 AM
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Dad D and I are going to play hide an seek my air flow. I am going to run down the long stack corridor and aft tear she is done torquing that bolt, she is going to run down the shorter hallway is ready... SET... GO!
Wwwdahoda blew thru the door to the big room faster? Do I see she took the shortest path of air into the chamber? Time that for me. I am going to make the engine turn or light off that much sooner is least path to resistance is around an intake boot.
Eyes rest my wrench is when is lunch? OH look, beer an nuts! Early Brake Fast?
translation: him and his Dyno are going to check the before and after on the short and long stacks to see the torque and hp gains
the only reason I even have a clue is because I worked 16 years in a prison and talk to throwed off folks daily....then I leave turnout and go deal with the inmates.....
Simply amazing - Thanks for the interpratation - I thought I may have had a stroke and was losing my language skills.... I would love to see the results
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Shane661
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posted February 27, 2009 06:33 AM
I don't think the dyno will tell the real story on these. Mph at the track is the real test.
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Shane661
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posted February 27, 2009 06:39 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 27 Feb 2009 21:41
A good testament to them working can be found here:
http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=13&TID=42923&pagenumber=1
I can't say how well they work on a totally stock motor, however.
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posted September 18, 2009 12:07 PM
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UPDATE 7/26/08!!!!!!!
Boy do I feel like a dumbass. I had a feeling that something just wasn't right after the installation. Retarded as it may sound, I had kept the stock seals in place. No wonder the stacks didn't push all the way onto the throttlebodies. DOH!!!!!
Just got back from tearing it all apart again and doing it the right way. Stock seals DO NOT GET RE-USED!!!! My mistake. There weren't any instructions that came with it so what do I know??? I'm not a mechanic, I just like to go fast.
Anyways, here's the new updated pics of the correct installation. Next Friday we'll get to see if they make a diference.
Good info NinjaBoy. I was installing the stacks today and this was my next question regarding the seals. I'm glad u posted these pics because I was wondering whether I was suppose to reinstall the stock seals, (the 2 rubber flat pieces that lay on top inside of the airbox that have 2 holes apiece for the stacks to go through). Appreciate Shane fwd'n me your thread.
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