jimjundt
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posted July 24, 2011 06:16 PM
shift problem on my zx14
went racing something happened !! will not shift into 2 ,3,4,5,6 have first and nuetral only . it is like it is stuck in two gears.. pulled oil pan off found slight binding on shift drum forks and gears all look good any ideas
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NINJA12
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posted July 25, 2011 05:00 AM
check shift forks
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osr
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posted July 25, 2011 08:27 AM
check your shift star -- might have broke an ear off -- been there done that.
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trganey
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posted July 25, 2011 08:42 AM
What about the little gadget that keeps you from shifting beyond neutral at rest?
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osr
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posted July 25, 2011 08:51 AM
those pesky 3 balls
been there done that too.
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trganey
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posted July 25, 2011 09:21 AM
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those pesky 3 balls
been there done that too.
yep! Could they be stuck some way causing the problem?
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osr
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posted July 25, 2011 09:41 AM
yeah after al lmy tranny issues with the bike you have we ran a bone stocker in mine for a few weeks and forgot to take the balls out -- well the only race I got down the track on that bike I made the finals and then tranny locked up casue the ball fell out somehow.
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trganey
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posted July 25, 2011 11:25 AM
Needless to say I have been blessed with this bike in the transmission dept. so far. Then again I'm not putting down any hp compared to what you were. Who knows, it may screw up next pass but I've been lucky so far. I'm keeping my fingers crossed!LOL
Sorry for hi jacking the thread!!!!! Back to business!
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jimjundt
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posted July 27, 2011 07:06 PM
found the problem it was those three balls!!!! has anyone taken them out and left them out.. would probably hard to get into nuetral but should shift btter i think any ideas
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trganey
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posted July 27, 2011 11:38 PM
They are out of my ZX14 Drag Bike and if I ever take the tranny apart on my street bike they'll be gone from it too. That is unless someone comes up with a logical idea why they should be left in there. My understanding is that they are only there to make it easier to find neutral but then again what do I know.
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Bigbore4
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posted July 28, 2011 05:00 AM
Those little balls are there to keep you from shifting up from neutral while the bike is at rest.
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dubious
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posted July 28, 2011 09:27 AM
to prevent 2nd gear starts? wtf .. bullshit use for them, toss the junk I say
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Flame On
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posted July 28, 2011 11:21 AM
Shit balls
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jimjundt
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posted July 28, 2011 03:13 PM
thanks i guess i will be leaving them out then i have light to tell me i am in neutrel
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redlinejoes
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posted September 03, 2011 07:18 PM
They are part of the "Positive Neutral Finder Mechanism". When at rest the bike should only find 1st or N, never 2nd until you roll forward/backward. This is a easy way for new riders to find N without much searching and rolling back or forward. Reality is that you have to find 1st or at least 2nd before this mechanism even works. Removing the balls should allow the bike to shift beyond N to 2nd at a stop, but old timers always train you to find N before coming to a complete stop because they grew up in a time where tranny's did not sync or mesh like they do now a days. You start slamming the shift lever around searching for N at a stop while the gears are still rotating makes some old people cringe.
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Audioboyz
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posted September 03, 2011 07:55 PM
I had one in the first 900 Kaw.I thought it was great.I still like it.If I want it in second I'd left it in second.
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debo33
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posted July 22, 2013 11:52 PM
Bike willnt shift from second to any other gear except first..this happen afte first pass at piedmont. Tried again to foot shift still nothing... Any sugg..i was told could b forks...need help
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jimjundt
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posted July 26, 2013 07:03 PM
more then likely if you look at the trany you will find a little culpret one of those three balls will be stuck not a shift fork been there done took them out works great!!!!!
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debo33
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posted July 29, 2013 07:37 PM
How would i gt to these balls and whats there name
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debo33
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posted July 29, 2013 09:11 PM
pos nuetral finder
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debo33
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posted July 29, 2013 09:16 PM
so basically i just go in take the tranny a part take them out put it back together and the bike should b fine,,, there not going to b any issue w the bike jumping in out of gear????
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Mayt13
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posted March 08, 2015 07:46 PM
Hi guys,
I posed this thread, http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=27&TID=78103&set_time=1425872404 ,
Could these balls in the "Positive Neutral Finder Mechanism" be part of my issue? I am unsure if they could affect the bike not wanting to shift smoothly from 3-4 without the clutch...
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MotoCycho
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posted March 10, 2015 01:29 PM
quote:
Hi guys,
I posed this thread, http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=27&TID=78103&set_time=1425872404 ,
Could these balls in the "Positive Neutral Finder Mechanism" be part of my issue? I am unsure if they could affect the bike not wanting to shift smoothly from 3-4 without the clutch...
Doubt it. Once in 2nd the balls have no effect from there on.
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