Lucky14
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posted March 17, 2012 10:41 AM
The Louisville Slugger Part 2
All the details about each mod by Brock on the 14R:
http://www.dragbike.com/dbnews/templates/fast1320_z2.aspx?articleid=7203&zoneid=2
Note that the last dyno chart is STD.
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posted March 17, 2012 10:53 AM
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smokinZX14
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posted March 17, 2012 10:58 AM
 Edited By: smokinZX14 on 18 Mar 2012 01:59
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spam
It's not spam when Brock pays to be a sponsor here .. Spam is IMFASTOO Posting Carpender stuff and never paying a penny to the website ...
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posted March 17, 2012 11:00 AM
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spam
It's not spam when Brock pays to be a sponsor here .. Spam is IMFASTOO Posting Carpender stuff and never paying a penny to the website ...
imfastoo is like a fly on a picnic.
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smokinZX14
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posted March 17, 2012 11:01 AM
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spam
It's not spam when Brock pays to be a sponsor here .. Spam is IMFASTOO Posting Carpender stuff and never paying a penny to the website ...
imfastoo is like a fly on a picnic.
wee
I would say his a fly on a dog turd ...
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posted March 17, 2012 11:01 AM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 18 Mar 2012 02:02
i see it flashing AREA P now days ...
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smokinZX14
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posted March 17, 2012 11:03 AM
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i see it flashing AREA P now days
That is all that turbo smoke getting in your eyes ... 
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Lucky14
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posted March 17, 2012 11:14 AM
Edited By: Lucky14 on 18 Mar 2012 02:16
Rough numbers (max, does not address area under the curve).
Gains are rounded to the nearest 0.5 HP.
Quick calcs so if I'm wrong, I'm sure someone will let me know!
SAE:
Stock .................................. 192.4 HP
Stock + 68 miles ............... 197.13 +5 HP just adding break-in miles
Zero wt. oil and Petron .... 201.25 +4 HP
AH2 .................................... 209.82 +8.5 HP
Guhl ECU mod ................. 211.74 +2 HP
All mods compared to Stock 68 miles .... +15 HP
Last chart is STD:
Stock + 70 miles ........... 201.5
All mods above ............ 216.42 +15 HP
Add MR12 ..................... 223.89 +7.5 HP
Keep in mind that all pulls are Zero Map = No tune!
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posted March 17, 2012 11:31 AM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 18 Mar 2012 02:32
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Add MR12 ..................... 223.89 +7.5 HP
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Keep in mind that all pulls are Zero Map = No tune!
There you have it smoken ... from the tuning god himself
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biggmoinc
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posted March 17, 2012 11:44 AM
Quick question, when u get a flashed ecu why isn't there any tuning to the fueling instead of waiting for pcv?
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1badzx12r
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posted March 17, 2012 11:55 AM
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Quick question, when u get a flashed ecu why isn't there any tuning to the fueling instead of waiting for pcv?
i can only speak from ecu editor of a busa from a few years ago.. it takes to long to change the fuel values to map with .. i've heard its got better now..
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smokinZX14
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posted March 17, 2012 11:57 AM
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Quick question, when u get a flashed ecu why isn't there any tuning to the fueling instead of waiting for pcv?
I think that is coming .. Last i herd was he needed a ZX14R for testing .. I do know Brock and Don are working together on this ..
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MJ
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posted March 18, 2012 05:40 PM
quote:
Rough numbers (max, does not address area under the curve).
Gains are rounded to the nearest 0.5 HP.
Quick calcs so if I'm wrong, I'm sure someone will let me know!
SAE:
Stock .................................. 192.4 HP
Stock + 68 miles ............... 197.13 +5 HP just adding break-in miles
Zero wt. oil and Petron .... 201.25 +4 HP
AH2 .................................... 209.82 +8.5 HP
Guhl ECU mod ................. 211.74 +2 HP
All mods compared to Stock 68 miles .... +15 HP
Last chart is STD:
Stock + 70 miles ........... 201.5
All mods above ............ 216.42 +15 HP
Add MR12 ..................... 223.89 +7.5 HP
Keep in mind that all pulls are Zero Map = No tune!
Nice breakdown of the improvements to get that power  So is the pipe on the new 14 getting less of a gain because its in a higher state of tune? I thought the old 14's got a little more power out of just the pipe than 8.5?
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Rob7R
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posted March 18, 2012 06:05 PM
My guess is that the stock headers are better than the old stockers, therefore they get more HP out of the crate. I could be totally wrong, just a guess.
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Rajun Cajun
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posted March 18, 2012 06:55 PM
I hope the AH2 will fit the 1st gen!!! I dont see an application for it on Brock's site!
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Rajun Cajun
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posted March 19, 2012 07:04 PM
come on...somebody out there has two bikes(1st gen and the new monster) will the AH2 fit the 1st gen??
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dakota9498
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posted March 19, 2012 08:52 PM
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come on...somebody out there has two bikes(1st gen and the new monster) will the AH2 fit the 1st gen??
Just buy the regular Alien Head, unless you have over 200hp you will not need the AH2 and even if it does fit I am guessing it would kill a bit of your low end.
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Rajun Cajun
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posted March 19, 2012 09:10 PM
Iplan on haing over 200hp
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dakota9498
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posted March 19, 2012 09:51 PM
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Iplan on haing over 200hp
Send Brock an email, asking on every thread in this forum isn't going to do any good.
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BobK
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posted March 19, 2012 10:58 PM
How come Brock always uses 89 octane for dyno runs? I would think that premium would allow less detonation thus more power.
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dakota9498
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posted March 19, 2012 11:04 PM
More octane doesn't mean more power. If you engine doesn't have detonation you don't need a higher octane rating. Running a higher octane when it is not needed will actually hurt power output. I and most of the people here run 87 octane at the track and street.
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BobK
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posted March 19, 2012 11:14 PM
I'm aware of that but I would imagine you are tuned but he does this with stock bikes with no tuning. Don't most bikes start to lean out with a pipe as you see in his dyno graphs around 7,000 rpm he is right close to 14-1 which I would think might get him close to detonation which would then reduce the power.
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posted March 20, 2012 12:23 AM
My bike is still running a little rich with 89 octane and it is piped with no signs of detonation and it does run better on 89 than 93
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Rajun Cajun
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posted March 20, 2012 06:13 AM
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Send Brock an email, asking on every thread in this forum isn't going to do any good.
ok...
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