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posted May 09, 2007 02:25 PM        
All right... let's talk stalling...

So in 400 miles the bike's stalled 3 times... all for no reason whatsoever... I suppose I'm lucky compared to the folk out there who've had it considerably worse...

any solutions on the horizon? I suppose I best head down to the local dealer and get my VIN # registered with this problem so they've got it on file.
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deathpulse


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posted May 10, 2007 04:00 AM        
No stalls yet for me Fish - 152 miles on the clock (and going!)
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posted May 10, 2007 04:01 AM        
OH - almost forgot... seems the idle on my bike is kinda high though.. over 1700 rpm. Maybe this contributes to fewer stalls? This was set at the dealer and I haven't messed with ANYTHING yet...
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posted May 10, 2007 03:30 PM        
Of the 3 times mines stalled, the last one was the most bizarre. Pulled up to a light and it just plain died... then it automatically tried to reboot itself, but acted as though the battery was dead. I pushed it out of the intersection, turned the key off and on and it started no problem. Taking it in to get it looked at this week.
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posted May 10, 2007 11:34 PM        
I've been reading about this a lot on the web. My bike still has yet to stall. She's got a little over 250 miles on the clock. I Still think the idle is high though.
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posted May 11, 2007 12:44 AM        
I can't imagine it's related to idle speed... idle should be 1350 rpm methinks though (not 100% sure)
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posted May 11, 2007 01:07 AM        
I haven't had it happen, but I'm suspect of the battery. After leaving the bike sit for a week or so, it cranks really slow.
EFI's are very voltage sensitive. If the batt is low and the altenator RPM is too low to feed everything, it could very easily quit.

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deathpulse


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posted May 11, 2007 02:27 AM        
How the heck do you adjust idle on this baby? It doesn't seem to be in the user manual... unless I missed it?
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posted May 13, 2007 03:58 AM        
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How the heck do you adjust idle on this baby? It doesn't seem to be in the user manual... unless I missed it?


You can't without the ECU laptop/software - If you have the Termi's fitted, you should have a "free flow" air filter and the Race ECU (dashboard should scroll 1098 RACE EVO)

Your dealer needs to set the ECU up, dependant on whether or not the baffles are in/out (BTW you didn't say if you have the 70mm header pipes?).

It sounds to me like it hasn't been set up correctly - have a look at this UK thread;

http://www.ducatisti.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=5462

BTW, mine has Termi's, no baffles and the stock headers - tickover hunts between 1500 - 1900 rpm (no stalling)

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posted May 17, 2007 09:24 AM        Edited By: fish_antlers on 17 May 2007 17:31
Dealer (RMS) addressed stalling issue under warranty (minor tweaks) no questions asked... bike's perfect now! good job Ducati! In and out in a few hours!
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posted May 30, 2007 07:43 AM        
My Superhawk(and most Superhawks) had the same issue. I think it's a V-twin thing?
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posted May 30, 2007 08:14 AM        
dunno... but no issues since its service!
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nsm3


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posted May 31, 2007 06:11 AM        
My tickover which was 1500-1800rpm now (400 miles later) sits between 1800-2000rpm and is having to go back to the dealers to be reset on the computer before the gearbox falls out when I select first gear !!

I am told that it doesn't have a straight idle setting as such, but evaluates various bits of sensor data and adjusts the throttle bodies to suit?

I am also having the clutch stripped to see why the clutch squeals/slips at pull away when hot.

No wonder mine doesn't stall !!

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deathpulse


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posted May 31, 2007 06:17 AM        
YEah - mine idles crazy high too. I'm getting it fixed at the 600 mile service.
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nsm3


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posted May 31, 2007 06:22 AM        
Mine has done 1500 miles now, so it is having to go back in, but it does get up to 2200rpm sometimes - you feel a proper idiot sitting at traffic lights with the bike revving its' nuts off!!
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posted August 02, 2007 11:58 PM        
So in 400 miles the bike's stalled 3 times... all for no reason whatsoever... I suppose I'm lucky compared to the folk out there who've had it considerably worse...

any solutions on the horizon? I suppose I best head down to the local dealer and get my VIN # registered with this problem so they've got it on file.

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posted August 07, 2007 05:23 PM        
Swft - check out my post about the ECU. Take the bike to a dealer that knows what they are doing. I have had varying results dealer to dealer regarding their expertise with the 1098. My problems were all sorted out by Portland Ducati - all under warranty.
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posted August 08, 2007 06:58 AM        
mine has been in for first service, and still stalling. now, its done it while leaving a light. Revs are good, lots of power, then nothing. I've had the ECU, and cams adjusted. Dealer doesn't know what to do next.
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posted August 08, 2007 06:59 AM        
This is really the only thing that worries me in regards to purchasng one.
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dougmeyer


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posted August 09, 2007 12:40 PM        
Mine has stalled maybe 4 times. In all honesty I can't say "for no reason", though. "For no reason would be for it to just stop without any outside influence (like me). But, in each case I was starting off or adding throttle from a slow idle.
Now, my bike does have some low speed issues (which REALLY piss me off) but that is another story which I'm not ready to tell.
I think the stalling is mostly due to the fact that this is a twin with very low flywheel inertia. Just as it's easier to stall a single than a twin, it's easier to stall a twin than a four. Fewer power pulses per rev. This is a really quick revving engine with low rotational inertia. I think it's just easy to trip it.

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posted August 09, 2007 12:58 PM        
tell the story... have you installed your new ecu?
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dougmeyer


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posted August 16, 2007 12:08 PM        
Not yet. Next week should bring changes. Story then........
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posted August 17, 2007 12:37 AM        
Good to know! Since I'm starting with a 2008, don't expect that I'll see the same issue. I know I've accidentally tractored it at least once this morning with no problems

FYI: 'tractor' means to take off in second gear with the resultant 'chug chug chug'.
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posted August 26, 2007 12:18 AM        
zx-14's never stall, and you can take off in 2nd, no problem

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posted August 28, 2007 01:27 AM        
I experienced the same problems with stalling when I first got my 02 TL1000R. It is caused form having a very light rotating mass, huge cams, high compression(11.7), and lack of inertia (counterweights or flywheel). Once you except that even though it makes loads of torque right above idle, you can't really use it. just rap it up higher, say 3 grand or so when taking off. It feels wrong, almost grates on your nerves revving so high, but you get used to it. Don't expect any dealer or manufacturer quick fix for it, though I don't doubt there is a ECU problem that could be excerbating it (it is a Ducati after all).
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