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posted September 21, 2010 05:47 PM
Anyone believe this - 196 mph BMW?????
*Showroom stock* BMW S1000RR set a record on the salt: 196.117 mph average
Class P-P 1000 CC
http://www.sdbmwmc.com/catalog
http://www.saltflats.com/2010_WOS.htm
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posted September 21, 2010 06:05 PM
Pretty cool if you ask me ...Has anyone run one in the standing mile yet ?
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posted September 21, 2010 06:17 PM
dont' see why not. It's got the HP and light weight with decent aero package.
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posted September 21, 2010 06:33 PM
Yes because I talked to the guy who helped it go from 194 to 196 last night. Ridden from Cali to the Salt Flats. Went 194....did some minor tweaks to setup, nothing crazy, went 196. That bike is all that.
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posted September 21, 2010 08:20 PM
Wow! I Have yet to hear the stock top speeds for both gen's of zx14's (limiter bypassed)
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posted September 21, 2010 08:59 PM
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Wow! I Have yet to hear the stock top speeds for both gen's of zx14's (limiter bypassed)
thats cookin man i think i read somewhere a 14 got damn close to 200 at the mile once with a speed healer, but who knows for sure im sure some one will post up about it
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posted September 22, 2010 04:08 AM
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Yes, I believe it, although I guess "stock" just means the motor.
Last month the UK magazine Performance Bikes took a BMW to 197.289mph with two teeth less on the rear and some "aerodynamic" taping on the fairing (they got 3mph just by covering the screen slots). Otherwise a stock engined bike.
In 2006 we got a totally stock ZZR1400 (ZX-14) to 198.7mph on the runway at RAF Woodbridge, Suffolk, England. This was the 200mph club's Judgement Day 9, the rider was Mike Grainger and it is a matter of record. The bike was just de-limited, otherwise everything was showroom stock, mirrors and all. Speed was achieved in a mile-and-a-quarter, there was a tail wind. (At the previous meeting, with normal conditions I recorded 191mph on a stock 14)
The 14 still rules.
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posted September 22, 2010 04:26 AM
Actually, I believe that bike was 100% stock. It was run in production class.
Oddly enough, in our production class you can have internal engine mods. Everything must appear stock externally, however.
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posted September 22, 2010 04:30 AM
it turns and brakes real well too 
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posted September 22, 2010 05:30 AM
Chad ran 196 at Maxton on a zx14 .. The only mod was a 18 tooth front sprocket ..If i remember right they did lower the bike some by adjusting the rear shock .. No aftermarket parts were used to lower it .. As you know Maxton is a standing mile , that is why i asked what has the BMW run in the standing mile ..
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posted September 22, 2010 06:01 AM
The density altitude at Bonneville was around 6000 ft....so imagine that. Maxton rarely gets over 3000' of DA, and much lower most of the year.
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posted September 22, 2010 07:29 AM
BobC-
Wasn't Judgement Day 9 the event where they had 40mph gust tailwinds? lol
I remember reading that over at 200mph.org a while back. Any truth to that?
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posted September 22, 2010 07:33 AM
As for the BMW.... 191HP "Demo" bike.....(according to their website)
Hmmmmm....interesting. I wonder what the showroom bikes put out.....
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posted September 22, 2010 09:36 AM
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Wow! I Have yet to hear the stock top speeds for both gen's of zx14's (limiter bypassed)
Busa did 202 with lee on it look on brocks page fastest still and alway will be. and with less hp
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posted September 22, 2010 10:02 AM
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Wow! I Have yet to hear the stock top speeds for both gen's of zx14's (limiter bypassed)
Busa did 202 with lee on it look on brocks page fastest still and alway will be. and with less hp
Hate to tell you Brocks Busa was fully modded and running MR9 .. The BMW was stock ..Brocks zx14 that broke 200 ( 200.92 ) at Maxton was also fully modded just like his Busa ..
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posted September 22, 2010 10:30 AM
No I don't believe it. Only a zx14 or busa (all Brock'ed out) is capable of such speeds. It also has to have had run brock's injector cleaner within the last 1000 miles.
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posted September 22, 2010 10:40 AM
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As for the BMW.... 191HP "Demo" bike.....(according to their website)
Hmmmmm....interesting. I wonder what the showroom bikes put out.....
Tim's S1000 put out more HP than that on pump gas. Valve cover has never been off of it. His isn't a "demo" either. He just went in and bought it. Right off the showroom floor.
Obviously not all dyno's are the same. However, I don't think this demo bike is a ringer.
I looked this one over pretty good in impound when they had it all ripped apart to measure the displacement. They are nice bikes.
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posted September 22, 2010 10:51 AM
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No I don't believe it. Only a zx14 or busa (all Brock'ed out) is capable of such speeds. It also has to have had run brock's injector cleaner within the last 1000 miles.
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posted September 22, 2010 12:11 PM
Edited By: BobC on 22 Sep 2010 20:14
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BobC-
Wasn't Judgement Day 9 the event where they had 40mph gust tailwinds? lol
I remember reading that over at 200mph.org a while back. Any truth to that?
That was a scurrilous rumour put about by those club members who weren't there and some "armchair" club members. It kept the forum going for months.
Yes, as I said, there was a tail wind which certainly helped.
Put it into context though: my 14 did 205.4 at JD9 with the tail wind and 203.1 at JD10 which had a side wind. It was worth a few mph, maybe more to the lower powered bikes with slower terminal speeds.
But you've got to be in it to win it. 
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posted September 22, 2010 04:16 PM
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As for the BMW.... 191HP "Demo" bike.....(according to their website)
Hmmmmm....interesting. I wonder what the showroom bikes put out.....
Tim's S1000 put out more HP than that on pump gas. Valve cover has never been off of it. His isn't a "demo" either. He just went in and bought it. Right off the showroom floor.
Obviously not all dyno's are the same. However, I don't think this demo bike is a ringer.
I looked this one over pretty good in impound when they had it all ripped apart to measure the displacement. They are nice bikes.
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posted September 22, 2010 05:38 PM
Im sure its piped and tuned, with that I believe it. Test drive one. They rip in the high RPMs
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posted September 22, 2010 06:55 PM
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The density altitude at Bonneville was around 6000 ft.....
Bingo!
That's one thing I questioned. So it would still make as much HP and run just as good in Denver as it would at sea level?
Hmmmmmmm ................
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posted September 22, 2010 10:08 PM
Geared up and lowered sure. The S1000RR is not much of a torque bike . It is a high RPM screamer.
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posted September 23, 2010 03:08 AM
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The density altitude at Bonneville was around 6000 ft.....
Bingo!
That's one thing I questioned. So it would still make as much HP and run just as good in Denver as it would at sea level?
Hmmmmmmm ................
Did you ever factor in how much DISTANCE they ran that in? Bikes starve for air up there but have lots of room to pull top gear. Doubt if you want, it means little in the grand scheme of things. Its an exceptional motorcycle any way you look at it. Funny you have a hard time believing a liter bike when a little faster than other literbikes but didn't voice any doubt at all when Forstall and the boys went over 250 n/a.
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posted September 23, 2010 03:24 AM
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Did you ever factor in how much DISTANCE they ran that in? Bikes starve for air up there but have lots of room to pull top gear. Doubt if you want, it means little in the grand scheme of things. Its an exceptional motorcycle any way you look at it. Funny you have a hard time believing a liter bike when a little faster than other literbikes but didn't voice any doubt at all when Forstall and the boys went over 250 n/a.
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I have no doubt that it it did it - the clocks don't lie. ........... and it wasn't with a tailwind becasuse it is a 2-way average.
I'm wondering about the "showroom stock" part.
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